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Is the big list of names everyone who has entered the race in general or people actually running in Iowa, like with a form of ballot access if the caucuses used ballots? I see no reason to include all the non-notable names or anyone who wasn't running in Iowa in particular, especially without sources specific to the caucus. Reywas92^Talk 02:23, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Ali Zifan: There are three counties, according to the results website, that recorded a tie of delegates for both Sanders and Clinton: Buena Vista, Calhoun and Henry. Is it possible the map could be updated to reflect the draws in these three counties instead of a win for either Clinton or Sanders? Philip Terry Graham 09:53, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This material has been moved here for discussion. The video used as source does not seem to support the text. It does provide a glimpse of the caucus process, that might be helpful in the page somewhere. --Artaxerxes 17:16, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

A video captured by C-SPAN at a Democratic caucus in Polk County shows that following a recount of Sanders supporters, a Clinton precinct captain reported the number of Clinton supporters without conducting an actual recount.^[1]

The important problem is that the Sanders counter recounted everyone, while the Clinton counter was recorded telling the organizer that she only added newcomers to the count she had before, and then when asked if she recounted everyone, she lied to the organizer and said "Yes". This means that if anyone left the caucus site who was supporting Sanders, then they were removed by Sanders's recounter, but any Clinton supporter who left the caucus site was treated as though they were still there for the purposes of the recount. Thus, artificial inflation of her numbers occurred unless everyone who left was a Sanders delegate, on top of the Clinton campaign surrogate lying to the organizer to cover up her mistake. The organizer then refused to conduct a recount of Clinton supporters despite complaints from the Sanders supporters. Instead, he left it up to a show of hands. This story has been covered by many new outlets such as Fox News. Here's a more complete clip of the what took place in Polk County - [1]. --Miunouta (talk) 05:13, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Path of least resistance on this is to wait until the "mainstream media" press cover it—for a number of reasons. Video is extra work—viewing/transcribing/etc.—and interpreting by the editor would seem to be an issue. Review article's reference list to get a sense of what sources tend to fly on politically-related pages. --Artaxerxes 19:59, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Below the results table we have this text:

Votes from precinct 42 in Iowa were still missing the following morning. Democrats "from that neighborhood scrambled to find party officials" to report that Sanders won by a margin of two delegates over Clinton. This narrowed Clinton's "excruciatingly close lead" even further, making the final tally for "delegate equivalents": Clinton: 699.57; Sanders: 697.77

If this is the "final total" should it not be in the table?

Frinton100 (talk) 19:17, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing this confusion out. I've now clarified in text that tally was to that point. --Artaxerxes 19:54, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

It's not over until the 'fat lady' sings. Note the controversy noted above. -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 11:26, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Multiplying the state delegate equivalents by 100 is meaningless, those figures never existed. That would suggest turnout was just over 140,000 when the Iowa Democratic Party has reported turnout was actually 171,109.

A better approximation of the popular vote would be 171,109 multiplied by the percentage of state delegate equivalents received, which would be:

Clinton 85,278 (49.8%) Sanders 84,846 (49.6%) O'Malley 929 (0.5%) Uncommitted 56 (0.0%)

However, this is still only a guess, the popular vote totals will never be known publicly, and the article should not include guesses about the totals. Green Papers have done so but there is no need to repeat their mistake.

Awnisbet1 (talk) 21:04, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

These results are missing both turnout count, and how the votes totaled before rolling up to the delegates. This is like ignoring the popular vote and only talking about the Electoral College results in Presidential elections, and is therefore misleading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.5.45 (talk) 09:48, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In the top right box, if you try to navigate to the 2012 Democratic caucus in Iowa, it routers incorrectly to the 2012 general election in Iowa.

For "previous_election" it has "2012 Iowa Democratic presidential caucuses" but when you click it, it takes you to "2012_United_States_presidential_election_in_Iowa#Democratic"

So the wiki is written correctly, but it routes to the wrong place.

| previous_election = 2012 Iowa Democratic presidential caucuses

| previous_year = 2012

| election_date = February 1, 2016 (2016-02-01)

| next_election = 2020 Iowa Democratic presidential caucuses

It's very bizarre.

Moebiusdad (talk) Moebiusdad (talk) 22:20, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]