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Just learning Wiki stuff. Starting 'improvements" on ATA, for which I led the design effort. --CommonModeNoise 05:11, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ATA a failure?

Clearly there are differences of opinion on the success or failure of the ATA to date. Let's discuss this here. In general I prefer, for example, '1 year behind' to 'far behind'. Whether a 1 year delay is a failure or not is in the eye of the beholder. For example, the Green Bank telescope was several years late, but eventually worked and is not considered a failure.

Likewise I think the budget comparison is legit - ATA is a low cost project, with very thin margins for unexpected problems.

Also, adding 'when and if completed' to a target in the future adds very little. These adjectives always apply to any projected date.

LouScheffer 04:59, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can anyone who runs and operates this thing tell us anything recent (like 2020 or so) about it's value? I don't see anything here that justifies its' purpose. What has it found? Who is now paying for this anyway? Needs some update. --2600:6C48:7006:200:B056:6066:1296:EF0B (talk) 01:45, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is funded by the SETI Institute. For such an enormous task, scanning the whole universe, you cannot expect results over such a small number of years. Be patient and stop being so negative. Thank you and regards, David J Johnson (talk) 11:16, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

Do you know of any publically available source for the ATA status that is more recent than July 2006? LouScheffer 16:38, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright violation

User:CommonModeNoise appears to be officially associated with the array, and has edited the page, when it had much of the same content. Perhaps he/she can pursue getting permission? I will also write the SETI Institute and ask as well. LouScheffer 05:53, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I wrote the SETI Institute, who replied with their permission, as follows: To Whom It May Concern:

This email is to permit re-use under the GFDL of the article at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Telescope_Array which is similar to materials published at the SETI Institute's website at: http://www.seti.org/site/pp.asp?c=ktJ2J9MMIsE&b=179004

Please reply if there is further clarification for this permission is required. Edna DeVore

so it should be OK to put the page back, LouScheffer 18:25, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I strongly object to the assertion that the content of this page as having been lifted from http://www.seti.org/site/pp.asp?c=ktJ2J9MMIsE&b=179004, to the contrary, I wrote most of the content for this page in 2005 (note the history of the page, June 2005), using the 2005 NSF proposal as source material with the permission of the research scentist G. Bower at the Radio Astronomy Laboratory at UC Berkeley. The RAL is acting as a sub-contractor to the SETI Inst for the ATA. It was a web editor at the SETI Institute that lifted the content of this page wholesale with no credit to the original wikipedia page (this one). I want this clarified by a change in the copyright notice above. -- Jcolbyk 16:30, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the Copywrite access notice from this page. As stated on 22 Nov 2006, this page was an original work by me and any claim by the web page editor at SETI is in error and it is in fact their responsibility to credit the original wikipedia page, not the other way around. Jcolbyk 23:35, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Updating summary so that history shows what's happened with the previous edit

clarification

By taking advantage of Moore’s Curve, the designers are replacing steel with silicon, resulting in a large cost saving over telescopes of more conventional design.

What does this mean? Are the dishes formed from solid silicon now or what? Is this a figure of speech? Plain speech is not only easier to understand, but also prevents the introduction of bias.

OK, explained figure of speech. LouScheffer 18:17, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Status disorganized

I've added an {{update}} tag to the "Status" section because it was updated with new information without apparent regard to chronological flow or any attempt to update older information (i.e., "mid-year 2007" events that should have taken place by now). Could someone with sourceable data relevant to this section please update it appropriately? Thanks. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 02:52, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

   Done. ~ Jcolbyk 18:00, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Stale

Just dropping this Google news search here in the hopes of sparking some more development on this article. I'll try to get to it when I get the time to start reading up more, but I'm hoping there are others who are interested in jumping in now. The more the merrier! Hiberniantears (talk) 21:52, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adding this article from space.com. Adding this article as well. Both to help me or other interested editors get the article updated. Hiberniantears (talk) 21:59, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Um. It is 2020 now. Even more stale. Waiting on some updated info. Did the system become decommissioned? Some one say so if so! 2600:6C48:7006:200:B056:6066:1296:EF0B (talk) 01:57, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

1hT

This article should contain more about the origin and conception of this project. Such as the original plan to use low cost DTH TV satellite dishes [1]. 64.229.101.119 (talk) 08:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Progress Toward Science Goals?

Has any progress toward the ATA's science goals been reported? I'm guessing not, or the proponents would have added a section.

Massive restructure of lead

The structure wasn't right in the first place, having become too pre-occupied with the project's inception, and it was horribly dated. With the enormous amount of embedded cite syntax, it was difficult to re-order the text, which is perhaps why this languished so long as it did. I think I kept the cites with the materials they support, but I'd advise a future editor to double-check this as I didn't actually read any of the cites—it wasn't my mission. — MaxEnt 00:57, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

After taking a very quick boo at the rest of the article, it might be a good idea to feature some of the innovations / capabilities in the lead, too, rather than just providing the administrative/bean-counter thumbnail sketch as it now exists. — MaxEnt 01:13, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox insufficiency

The infobox presently contains no technical parameters of the telescope. About all it contributes is the geographic location, which needs to be in the text anyway. This is probably not a very difficult task for someone who knows anything about radio astronomy. — MaxEnt 11:11, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@MaxEnt: I found some of the details in the text, and have added them to the infobox. WP:IANARA (I Am Not A Radio Astronomer), just knowledgeable about radio in general.

- 220 of ^Borg 12:04, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

MaxEnt Added more information to the infobox and removed tag. StarryGrandma (talk) 21:28, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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2600:6C48:7006:200:B056:6066:1296:EF0B (talk) 01:59, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Needs balanced coverage

"Overview" section reads like rationalizations and pleading. While I'm sure those voices need to be heard, we hear none of the downfalls of this project besides "They're pulling funding." Surely there are reasons why which can at least be succinctly mentioned in the opening section and overview? Mercster (talk) 15:40, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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