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On 19 February 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from T1 Light Tank to T1 light tank. The result of the discussion was moved.

Rewrote article using more reliable sources, for better accuracy and more completeness.

Just a remark that although this article had previously been assessed as B-class, its sources were actually rather dubious (a scattering of web pages), and it was full of errors and quite incomplete. I tracked down some better sources for it and completely rewrote it, though I'm sure there's still plenty of room for further improvement. Unfortunately, U.S. interwar tanks like this are not well covered by most publications. --Colin Douglas Howell (talk) 18:19, 4 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Name "T1 Cunningham" appears fictitious, so moving article to "T1 Light Tank".

The original name for this article, "T1 Cunningham", appears to be a recent invention which quite likely stems from the popular MMO game World of Tanks, which introduced this tank under that name as a "Tier 1" (starting level) vehicle for players following the game's American tech tree. I can't find any examples of this tank ever being called "T1 Cunningham" in a Google Books search; as for web pages, most of them either seem to directly refer to the World of Tanks version or have apparently been influenced by it. (The tank was added to the game in late 2010, so it's had plenty of time to affect the web.) The name is also misleading, since it gives the impression that the tank was a Cunningham design or was somehow named for him, when in fact the tank was an Ordnance Department design, and Cunningham acted merely as the builder.

The official name seems to have been "Light Tank, T1", following standard U.S. Army practice of the time, but Wikipedia doesn't seem to follow that pattern for its weapon article titles, so I'm using the title "T1 Light Tank" for consistency --Colin Douglas Howell (talk) 19:07, 4 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia uses the principle of "common name" for article titles, and this may not match with the "official" name in some cases. ( There is a whole slew of guidance on article names. ) If sufficient reliable sources were to refer to it as 'T1 Cunningham' that would be sufficient. GraemeLeggett (talk) 05:36, 5 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I understand and am quite familiar with Wikipedia's "common name" principle. It just appears that this "T1 Cunningham" name never seems to have been used by any reliable source, or indeed any source at all before circa 2010. To me, the name really seems to have popped up because the World of Tanks developers chose to use it. --Colin Douglas Howell (talk) 01:05, 6 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Happened across a different vehicle called "Cunningham light tank" in a book by George Forty. It's a one man tank built around 1928. GraemeLeggett (talk) 08:24, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 19 February 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. – robertsky (talk) 03:39, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

T1 Light Tank → T1 light tank
T14 Heavy Tank → T14 heavy tank
T20 Medium Tank → T20 medium tank
T25 Medium Tank → T25 medium tank
T28 Super Heavy Tank → T28 super-heavy tank
T29 Heavy Tank → T29 heavy tank
T30 Heavy Tank → T30 heavy tank
T32 Heavy Tank → T32 heavy tank
T34 Heavy Tank → T34 heavy tank

– Per WP:LOWERCASE and for consistency, e.g., with M2 light tank, M2 medium tank, M103 heavy tank, M1917 light tank, T57 heavy tank, T92 light tank, T95 medium tank, and Type 95 heavy tank, and with corresponding tank classification articles Light tank, Medium tank, Heavy tank, and Super-heavy tank. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 22:06, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support: It looks like the T## is the proper name of these designs, and that the light, medium, etc. tank is a description or type. SchreiberBike | ⌨ 23:07, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support - From the MILHIST MOS "When using numerical model designation, the word following the designation should be left uncapitalized (for example, "M16 rifle" or "M109 howitzer") unless it is a proper noun." Primergrey (talk) 02:33, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per details above. Dicklyon (talk) 07:32, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. But note that "super heavy" is not usually hyphenated in the sources, even though it is grammatically correct. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:20, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's hyphenated in the Super-heavy tank article, and it does make sense grammatically, so I think it's best to be consistent with that article. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:19, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per above. Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 19:05, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above - particularly Primergrey.

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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