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Talk:The Black Monk of Pontefract

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Comment added by 62.49.35.157 moved from main page to here:

"Director Pat Holden has a unique connection with the story – it was his aunt’s home that was the target of the haunting." This isn't actually true, no one in the family know the director. Ref=Mitchell, Wendy. "Haunting Memories". Screen Daily. Screen Daily. Retrieved 31 July 2012.

The Yeti (talk) 05:59, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Entire Article Deleted

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The article I added yesterday has been deleted because it places "WP:UNDUE weight on WP:FRINGE sources." While I agree that the article needs more sources, the source in question (The book by Colin Wilson) was being used to illustrate the facts as reported by the witnesses at the time. Not to prove or disprove the existence of ghosts. The book is the contemporary report of the haunting, written by an author with his own extensive wikipedia pages.

I find it strange that an entire article can be deleted before any kind of debate has been had. The article also had sources from the BBC and the Guardian which are usually acceptable. Since this case is still on going and still appears in the papers, I believe it deserves it's own article rather than just being a footnote to a film. Whowasphone404 (talk) 04:16, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Whowasphone404 I don't see any edits made by you that have actually been deleted. Could you provide some more detail please? Thanks. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:23, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Whowasphone404 Never mind. I figured it out. Your page (this one) was not deleted. It was turned into a WP:REDIRECT. All of your edits are saved in the page history. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:29, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Right, my edits haven't actually been deleted, but the entire article has been removed without any discussion. Whowasphone404 (talk) 06:19, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Whowasphone404. Apologies if the revert it seemed abrupt, but there were so many NPOV problems with your expansion of the article, adding a few "allegedly"'s to the text could not fix them. More than three quarters of the article was cited to one author's book who is an ardent supernatural believer and not a WP:FRIND source. Your article presented Wilson's WP:FRINGE POV of "facts" in Wikipedia's voice: an overwhelmingly credulous narrative written in persuasive style that assumes the existence of the supernatural. Even the BBC and the Guardian can sometimes indulge in WP:SENSATIONAL narratives that emphasize the lurid and sensational, omit any critique, or give equal weight to critical and credulous views. There is a lot to learn about editing Wikipedia articles, so I hope you will take your time to absorb how the encyclopedia works and familiarize yourself with some of the not so obvious nuances of editorial policy. Regards, - LuckyLouie (talk) 15:14, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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