“ One by one, the guests arrive The guests are coming through The open-hearted many The broken-hearted few ” — Leonard Cohen, "The Guests" based on a 13th-century Persian poem ——————————————— Welcome! Need help? Click on [show] to the right ——————————————— This page was last edited or modified by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on 2025-10-06. Paid editors should not contact this user. Notice: If I have posted on your talk page, you may ping me and we will conclude the conversation there. Welcome to my talk page. Please adhere to the talk page guidelines and particularly the following: It is easiest to use the "Add topic" link at the top of a talk page and "[ reply ]" link following each post but you may edit this page directly if you follow the above-mentioned guidelines. If you choose to edit the page directly, please observe the following in addition to anything else in the above-mentioned guidelines: Please post your new topic at the bottom of this page. Please sign and date your entry by inserting "~~~~" at the end. Please specify a descriptive subject or headline for a new topic and separate subtopics by ===heading=== lines, if needed. Please indent your posts with one more ":" than what you are replying to, i.e. begin with ":" if replying to an existing topic and "::" if replying to a reply. Regarding replies and notifications: I will generally respond here to comments that are posted here, rather than replying via your Talk page (or the article Talk page, if you are writing to me here about an article), so you may want to watch this page until you are responded to, or use the "[ subscribe ]" link by each thread heading,or specifically let me know where you'd prefer the reply. If I left you a message; please answer on the page where the message was left, using {{ping|Username}}, {{reply to|Username}} or {{u|Username}} in your response, or add {{talkback|Username}} or {{whisperback|Username}} to my talk page. If you leave me a message here, I will answer here on my talk page, notifying you in the same manner. ⇒ Start a new Talk topic. This user does not mind criticism. Feel free to let him know if he did something wrong. He also thinks you should do the same to anyone else as long as you follow some basic guidelines: remain civil, assume good faith and don't bite. This user is aware of the designation of the following topics as contentious topics: Armenia, Azerbaijan, or related conflicts the Arab–Israeli conflict abortion post-1992 politics of the United States and closely related people the Balkans or Eastern Europe article titles and capitalisation articles about living or recently deceased people, and edits relating to the subject (living or recently deceased) of such biographical articles complementary and alternative medicine climate change discussions about infoboxes, and edits adding, deleting, collapsing, or removing verifiable information from infoboxes COVID-19, broadly construed the Balkans or Eastern Europe Falun Gong governmental regulation of firearm ownership; the social, historical and political context of such regulation; and the people and organizations associated with these issues gender-related disputes or controversies or people associated with them genetically modified organisms, commercially produced agricultural chemicals and the companies that produce them, broadly construed the Horn of Africa (defined as including Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, Djibouti, and adjoining areas if involved in related disputes) post-1978 Iranian politics the topics of Kurds and Kurdistan, broadly construed pseudoscience and fringe science the intersection of race/ethnicity and human abilities and behaviour the results of any national or sub-national election the region of South Asia (India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Nepal), broadly construed, including but not limited to history, politics, ethnicity, and social groups the Troubles Yasuke He should not be given alerts for those areas. This is a Wikipedia user talk page. This is not an encyclopedia article or the talk page for an encyclopedia article. If you find this page on any site other than Wikipedia, you are viewing a mirror site. Be aware that the page may be outdated and that the user whom this page is about may have no personal affiliation with any site other than Wikipedia. The original talk page is located at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sam_Sailor. Archives Index 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29 This page has archives. Sections older than 30 days may be auto-archived by ClueBot III if there are more than 1.

Women in Red | September 2025, Vol 11, Issue 9, Nos. 326, 327, 347, 348, 349 Recognized as the most active, topic-based WikiProject by human changes. Online events: New: Alphabet run Q & R | Women writers & their works | Microstates Continuing, year-long initiatives: #1day1woman | Music Announcements: Wikipedia:Developing Countries WikiContest runs 1 July 2025 until 30 September 2025 Tip of the Month: Researching historical women writers who used pseudonyms requires careful investigation across multiple sources, as many women adopted pen names to avoid gender bias and judgment (e.g., being labeled a bluestocking) and, ultimately, to get published. Progress ("moving the needle"): The WikiProject Women in Red homepage is usually updated weekly, using the Humaniki tool. Sadly, Humaniki has been out of action since 23 June. Other ways to participate: Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events and add any general ideas on developing the project. Follow us on social media: Instagram | Pinterest

--Rosiestep (talk) 23:55, 31 August 2025 (UTC) via MassMessaging[reply]

Hi Sam, thanks for reviewing FCV Grace Dieu - it was a really useful heads up for me to add a bunch more sources, so thanks! 🫎 moose 💬 14:27, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Terrific, thank you, Moose. Best, Sam Sailor 17:00, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

Your common.js is currently in Category:Pages with templates in the wrong namespace due to its parsing of some content as templates. Would you mind wrapping the page in a nowiki tag to prevent this issue?

Thanks! ~ Eejit43 (talk) 00:16, 14 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Eejit43: Thanks for letting me know, it's fixed. And thank you very much for all the useful scripts you have coded and shared with the rest of us. Best, Sam Sailor 04:41, 14 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

An economic analysis of climate change estimating the median income change by 2050 compared to a baseline scenario Hello, Sam Sailor. The article for improvement of the week is: Economic analysis of climate change Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Lead Belly • Comic timing Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:10, 15 September 2025 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions[reply]

The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 70, July–August 2025

• New collections:
  • Times of Malta
  • Africa Intelligence
  • Intelligence Online
  • La Lettre
  • Glitz
• Spotlight: Wikimania

Read the full newsletter

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team – 13:15, 18 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(This message was sent to User:Sam Sailor and is being posted here due to a redirect.)

The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 70, July–August 2025

• New collections:
  • Times of Malta
  • Africa Intelligence
  • Intelligence Online
  • La Lettre
  • Glitz
• Spotlight: Wikimania

Read the full newsletter

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team – 13:16, 18 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(This message was sent to User:Sam Sailor and is being posted here due to a redirect.)

Hello Sam Sailor, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Draft:Gatos Trail Recording Studio, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: it's their first try at a draft, let them keep trying. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. asilvering (talk) 05:59, 19 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Exterior firefighting at an abandoned convent in Massueville, Canada Hello, Sam Sailor. The article for improvement of the week is: Firefighting Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Economic analysis of climate change • Lead Belly Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:09, 22 September 2025 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions[reply]

Categories you have created have been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 September 22 § Category:SV Spittal/Drau on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 14:40, 22 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

An Antarctic fur seal biting another one while fighting Hello, Sam Sailor. The article for improvement of the week is: Biting Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Firefighting • Economic analysis of climate change Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 29 September 2025 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions[reply]

Women in Red | October 2025, Vol 11, Issue 10, Nos. 326, 327, 350, 351, 352 Recognized as the most active topic-based WikiProject by human changes. Online events: New: Alphabet run S & T | Women in STEM | Halloween Continuing, year-long initiatives: #1day1woman | Music Announcements: Sister wikiproject Women in Green October 2025 Good Article Edit-a-thon focuses on What Women Do Tip of the Month: Notable does not always mean admirable; you don't have to like an article's subject to make the article a useful contribution to Wikipedia. Progress ("moving the needle"): Statistics available via various tools: previously, Humaniki tool; currently, QLever. Thank you if you contributed one or more of the 6,283 articles during this period: 19 May 2025: 20.114% of EN-WP biographies are about women (2,066,280; 415,618 women) 24 September 2025: 20.20% of EN-WP biographies are about women (2,088,533 biographies; 421,901 women) Other ways to participate: Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events and add any general ideas on developing the project. Follow us on social media: Instagram | Pinterest

--Rosiestep (talk) 18:32, 29 September 2025 (UTC) via MassMessaging[reply]

The reason I made Sokolac Fortress (Bihać) in the disambiguated location is because this descriptive suffix is fairly arbitrary. Several others listed at Sokolac (disambiguation) could also be described as "fortress", it just so happens that whoever made some of those other articles didn't use that word. --Joy (talk) 20:53, 29 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A descriptor is not necessarily used in the article title. Should any of the articles listed at Sokolac (disambiguation) be moved to Sokolac Fortress (xxxxxx)?

Sokolac Castle has been at that title since 2008.

Soko Grad (Sokobanja) has, basically, been at that title since 2009:

Soko Grad (Soko Banja, Serbia) → Soko Grad (Sokobanja, Serbia) → Soko Grad (Sokobanja)

Date	To	Performer	Comment
	From
2010-08-11T 13:07:53	Soko Grad (Sokobanja)	No such user (talk | contribs)	simpler disambiguator
	Soko Grad (Sokobanja, Serbia)
2009-03-22T 09:23:33	Soko Grad (Sokobanja, Serbia)	Bbik (talk | contribs)	If that's how the town is spelled, that's how the disambiguation should be spelled too. Though perhaps there's a better disambiguation term anyhow?
	Soko Grad (Soko Banja, Serbia)

Those two articles are the only two I think come close to "fortress". Looking at hr:Sokolac (razdvojba) and sh:Sokolac (razvrstavanje), I don't think there are any imminent competitors for the title Sokolac Fortress, but should that become the case in the future, we can disambiguate. Best, Sam Sailor 05:31, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand what you mean, specifically based on those examples - the Croatian and Serbo-Croatian disambiguation lists say "utvrda" in reference to the one near Brinje, a word which is typically translated as - "fortress". Just because @Dr. Blofeld happened to name that article "castle" in 2008, and nobody ever bothered to move it, that doesn't mean it's not conventionally understood as a fortress just as much as the one near Bihać or the one near Sokobanja.

And that's the other problem - Brinje and Bihać are actually pretty close by. For the average English reader, who is not aware of the finer details of geography of this region, 65 km of distance isn't enough to help easily distinguish.

Note also that the name of Soko Grad reinforces this because Grad (toponymy) means basically a fort or a fortress.

This all just seems plainly ambiguous to me. We might as well use Sokolac (fortress near Brinje), Sokolac (fortress near Bihać), Sokolac (fortress near Sokobanja) (in the latter case as a redirect). --Joy (talk) 07:17, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should use article titles based on policies and guidelines on English Wikipedia and disregard the fact that the article on the Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia is placed at sh:Sokolačka tvrđava kod Bihaća (lit. 'Sokolac Fortress near Bihać') despite sh:Sokolačka tvrđava (lit. 'Sokolac Fortress') being redlinked. And as of now, I do not see a need to disambiguate Sokolac Fortress. If you believe otherwise and believe Sokolac Castle was mistitled by Dr. Blofeld, maybe a discussion or RM at Talk:Sokolac Castle would be beneficial to get input from other editors. And you are, of course, free to undo my move, in which case I will open an RM discussion. Sam Sailor 07:43, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I was addressing you from the point of view of the English Wikipedia. The average English reader cannot distinguish these buildings based on one being "castle" and one being "fortress", because that just does not match the practical reality. It's an editorial choice of words, one that doesn't have a lot of actual meaning. You brought up the foreign-language Wikipedia coverage, but it just reinforces the same point. I don't think we need a lot of input from other editors, we just need to apply the fine WP:V and WP:AT policies. Can we find e.g. the preponderance of reliable sources saying the one near Bihać is always referred to as "fortress", and likewise the one near Brinje referred to as "castle"? I don't think we can. This matters far more than the history of editorializing by various Wikipedia users (including myself). --Joy (talk) 09:56, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to thank you for bringing to my attention that Ninellidae was not an actual mistake. I have rectified the situation and rewritten the article. African Mud Turtle (talk) 13:34, 3 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article George Finch (councillor), which you previously marked as reviewed, is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted. The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/George Finch (councillor) until a consensus is reached, and you are welcomed to contribute to the discussion.SodiumBot (botop|talk) 23:48, 3 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

These updates are delivered by SodiumBot. To opt out of these messages, add {{User:SodiumBot/NoNPPDelivery}} to your talk page.

Hi,

Greetings @Sam Sailor , I am User:Bookku. I initiate and support update in information and knowledge gap areas on WP wherever whenever possible. Time to time, also invite other users in draft/ article expansion work or copyedit help for diversity in inputs.

Requesting you to visit the draft article User:Bookku/My Choice (2015 film) and provide copyedit or any suitable input, article expansion help in the draft, if the topic interests you.

Just fyi: How I came to user name? My general way is mentioned on my user page. In this specific instance: Recent changes menu.

Thanks Bookku (talk) 10:10, 5 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bookku: I didn't do much. Let me know if you have specific issues, and I'll be happy to help, if I can. Good luck! Sam Sailor 11:04, 5 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, there’s a ANI post that you should be notified of since it involves you somewhat. MarioProtIV (^talk/_contribs) 17:04, 5 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The hierarchy of biological classification's eight major taxonomic ranks. A family contains one or more genera. Hello, Sam Sailor. The article for improvement of the week is: Genus Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Biting • Firefighting Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 6 October 2025 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions[reply]