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New month: today is the birthday of Chopin and Ricardo Kanji, see my stories of today and yesterday, with dream music by the first and Bach played by the other. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:40, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
Today: Carmen turns 150, as the main page and my story tell you. I chose a 1962 concert of the Habanera, - enjoy! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:37, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
On Ravel's birthday, we also think of a conductor and five more composers ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:02, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
Today I could have written five stories off the main page, and chose Sofia Gubaidulina. I find the TFA also interesting, and two DYK, and a birthday OTD. How about you? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:37, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
Today: an opera, 100 years old OTD, on Bach's birthday. I saw it, - see music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:04, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
Today, 300 years of Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1! We sang works for (mostly) double choir by Pachelbel, Johann Christoph Bach, Kuhnau/Bach, Gounod and Rheinberger! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:42, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
April music
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Tout est lumière --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:51, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
My story is about music that Bach and Picander gave the world 300 years (and 19 days) ago, - listen (on the conductor's birthday) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:04, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
I finally managed to upload the pics I meant for Easter, see places. - Also finally, I managed a FAC, Easter Oratorio. Trumpets! I wanted that on the main page for Easter Sunday, but no, twice. You are invited to join a discussion about what "On this day" means, day or date. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:56, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
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Hip hop
Why did you remove the recording for Hip hop ? Wikipedia cant improve like this. So What's early source that say The Jubalaires considered themselves Hip hop ? Gasybeaugosse2020 (talk) 02:52, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- As I said in the edit summary, "Garber really needs a citation to support its inclusion here. There are countless recordings that foreshadow hip-hop. The least we can do is point to a credible source that asserts the connection between Garber and the genre."
- If you click through the cited sources for the Jubalaires recording, you will find not that they considered themselves hip-hop, because it did not exist. However, people point to their song "Noah" as a precursor of the genre.
- Barring a similar source that asserts a connection between the Garber recording and the hip-hop genre, it doesn't belong in an already overlong and credulous article. There are too many incorrect assessments of things as "firsts" in the article. It needs a great deal of work.Trumpetrep (talk) 03:45, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- It's impossible to find article about the connection of this recording by Garber and Hip hop since it's the first it appears in public. It's a rare recording. Why not just accepting this one recording just to show that there were already jazz rapping before even the popular jubilaires. Jubalaires are just popular and most people ignored 1920s recording like this because it's hard to find. I didn't pick this recording randomly. It's because it's quite very Similar to early hip hop even the pseudo turn table in this is unique. Gasybeaugosse2020 (talk) 14:33, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- I am very sympathetic to your view, and I have made many similar edits in the past only to see them removed. It's frustrating when that happens. The reason other editors remove edits like this is because they are original research.
- In other words, Gasybeaugosse2020 was the only one saying Garber's recording foreshadows hip-hop. When you added the recording, I recognized your interpretation was correct. However, no matter how many Wikipedia editors agree with you, our perspectives aren't enough to support inclusion in the encyclopedia. Everything on Wikipedia must be verifiable by a third party source. The goal is to build a reliable reference for general readers.
- My first reaction to your addition of the song was to search for sources that could support its inclusion. I couldn't find any in a cursory search. I searched again when you posted this question to me. There may be a source out there, but in the absence of one, it's inappropriate to include the song in the article.
- Moreover, statements like this, "The Jubalaires, whose 1946 song 'Noah' is often named as the first recorded instance of rap", are doing a disservice to the article's purpose. Regardless of the fact that there are three credible sources supporting the assertion, it is a misleading statement that doesn't give people a helpful sense of hip-hop's evolution. One of the thing's I've been working on is editing statements like that to be less credulous.Trumpetrep (talk) 15:51, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- It's impossible to find article about the connection of this recording by Garber and Hip hop since it's the first it appears in public. It's a rare recording. Why not just accepting this one recording just to show that there were already jazz rapping before even the popular jubilaires. Jubalaires are just popular and most people ignored 1920s recording like this because it's hard to find. I didn't pick this recording randomly. It's because it's quite very Similar to early hip hop even the pseudo turn table in this is unique. Gasybeaugosse2020 (talk) 14:33, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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When is your Kürten lecture? -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- July 29th, I believe. Trumpetrep (talk) 17:19, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- In the program, I find the concerts easily, but not the lectures (also I might not understand a word). 29 July is Hymnen, quite tempting. A friend of mine played horn in the second U.S. performance. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:33, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- The performance at Yale? The lecture schedule will be posted at the Courses. I don't think they post it online. The calendar will just show the daily lecture slot in the afternoon. Trumpetrep (talk) 20:12, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, Yale. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:21, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- That's where I got my masters. :) Trumpetrep (talk) 21:34, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, Yale. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:21, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- The performance at Yale? The lecture schedule will be posted at the Courses. I don't think they post it online. The calendar will just show the daily lecture slot in the afternoon. Trumpetrep (talk) 20:12, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- In the program, I find the concerts easily, but not the lectures (also I might not understand a word). 29 July is Hymnen, quite tempting. A friend of mine played horn in the second U.S. performance. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:33, 31 May 2025 (UTC)