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Template:Twenty20 cricket domestic competitions discussion
[edit]Hello Vestrian24Bio,
I know you are better editor than me as you have been editing on wikpedia scince very long time. But your move about Template:Twenty20 competitions is worng this time. The domestic cricket competitions templete are written in the way displayed in eg: Template:First-class cricket domestic competitions and Template:List A cricket domestic competitions. So, don't take the things on ego. Anything better is good. This is not international cricket competions. It's domestic cricket competitions, And there is no need of defunct competitions to be mentioned as the are deeply discused in List of Twenty20 cricket competitions. Only ICC memebrs team competitions should be mentined. So, I request to don't mess it.
Hope you get it. Wating for your reply. So, I can move the tempalte to Template:Twenty20 cricket domestic competitions and make edit to the template or you move it and edit it likewise in Template:List A cricket domestic competitions.🙏 Csknp (talk) 07:07, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Csknp: Twenty20 cricket is more significant than List A or First-class cricket, thus it should be treated similar to Template:International cricket. Vestrian24Bio 08:21, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- No it shouldn't, and you need to get consensus from cricket editors if you want to treat it differently. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:11, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Joseph2302: The T20 template has been like this, in cases of WP:CONSISTENT it's the List A and First-class templates that should be changed to include all notable competitions. But, I would agree we'd need a wider discussion before making any changes. Vestrian24Bio 09:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes Twenty20 cricket is more significant but you should also consider we are not taking about International cricket, it's about domestic Twenty20 cricket. So, why to treate it like Template:International cricket if there has been a template follwed for domestic competitions like in Template:List A cricket domestic competitions and Template:List A cricket domestic competitions So, in my opinion Template:Twenty20 cricket domestic competitions should also be made in same way🙏 . Csknp (talk) 09:32, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'd say all cricket navboxes, (regardless of whether international or domestic) should be in the same way. Vestrian24Bio 09:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- No it shouldn't, there is difference between international and domestic cricket. Both have different level. So, why to compare it. Rather doing things follwed previously for domestic cricket template. Csknp (talk) 09:49, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'd disagree with that and also from your above comment,
no need of defunct competitions to be mentioned
- why? all related page links should be given in a navbox.the are deeply discused in List of Twenty20 cricket competitions
- so...?Only ICC memebrs team competitions should be mentined
- why is that?
- Also we should do this discussion in a template talk page rather than my user talk page and should get input from other editors as well. Vestrian24Bio 09:58, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Only ICC memebrs team competitions should be mentined - Beacuse those touranments are only important and necessary for international competitions.
- They are deeply discused in List of Twenty20 cricket competitions and no need of defunct competitions to be mentioned - So, every defunt tournament mentioned will make the template longer and currently every ICC memebrs country have many Twenty20 competitions (including leagues) which has made the template longer already. And if any local t20 competitions is being held with out the respective country cricket board why should it be mentioned in template. If you are too concerd about defunct competitions and related page links should be given in a navbox. Then, make a template named Template:Defunct Twenty20 cricket competitions and place it there.
- Csknp (talk) 10:15, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Defunct teams should be kept, as it's a navigation box so it helps navigate between them. However, I have realised that not all of these T20 competitions are "domestic" as there are a number of "international" ones that have teams from multiple countries. This seems like it needs a wider discussion at WT:CRIC, though if international T20 tournaments are listed here, the name should not include domestic. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:09, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, you are right. That's why i had tried to edit Template:Twenty20 cricket domestic competitions with only ICC memebrs domestic competition (including league) as per standard domestic template in Template:First-class cricket domestic competitions and Template:List A cricket domestic competitions. But User:Vestrian24Bio has been undoing edits. In my opinion for defunct competition seprate template should be made otherwise there is no reason of it as defunct and "international competitions" ones that have teams from multiple countries all are meintioned in List of Twenty20 cricket competitions. Csknp (talk) 12:40, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Csknp, Domestic or Multi-national they are Twenty20 competitions. We should go for less templates with more links as opposed to more templates with less links as you are proposing. Also, there's nothing with a navbox being long, have you seen international cricket season navboxes... And even if we create separate navboxes as you're proposing they are most likely to end-up being merged together through TfD. Vestrian24Bio 12:55, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Go and see Template:Twenty20 cricket domestic competitions now. It must be ok now as there is both current and defunct Twenty20 competitions mentioned. Csknp (talk) 13:42, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- You should not do this until a consensus is reached, I will raise this at WT:CRIC. Vestrian24Bio 01:36, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- I have started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket#Template:Twenty20 competitions. Vestrian24Bio 02:50, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- You should not do this until a consensus is reached, I will raise this at WT:CRIC. Vestrian24Bio 01:36, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Go and see Template:Twenty20 cricket domestic competitions now. It must be ok now as there is both current and defunct Twenty20 competitions mentioned. Csknp (talk) 13:42, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Csknp, Domestic or Multi-national they are Twenty20 competitions. We should go for less templates with more links as opposed to more templates with less links as you are proposing. Also, there's nothing with a navbox being long, have you seen international cricket season navboxes... And even if we create separate navboxes as you're proposing they are most likely to end-up being merged together through TfD. Vestrian24Bio 12:55, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, you are right. That's why i had tried to edit Template:Twenty20 cricket domestic competitions with only ICC memebrs domestic competition (including league) as per standard domestic template in Template:First-class cricket domestic competitions and Template:List A cricket domestic competitions. But User:Vestrian24Bio has been undoing edits. In my opinion for defunct competition seprate template should be made otherwise there is no reason of it as defunct and "international competitions" ones that have teams from multiple countries all are meintioned in List of Twenty20 cricket competitions. Csknp (talk) 12:40, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Defunct teams should be kept, as it's a navigation box so it helps navigate between them. However, I have realised that not all of these T20 competitions are "domestic" as there are a number of "international" ones that have teams from multiple countries. This seems like it needs a wider discussion at WT:CRIC, though if international T20 tournaments are listed here, the name should not include domestic. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:09, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'd disagree with that and also from your above comment,
- No it shouldn't, there is difference between international and domestic cricket. Both have different level. So, why to compare it. Rather doing things follwed previously for domestic cricket template. Csknp (talk) 09:49, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'd say all cricket navboxes, (regardless of whether international or domestic) should be in the same way. Vestrian24Bio 09:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- No it shouldn't, and you need to get consensus from cricket editors if you want to treat it differently. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:11, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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