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Miscellany for deletion (MfD) is a place where Wikipedians decide what should be done with problematic pages in the namespaces which aren't covered by other specialized deletion discussion areas. Items sent here are usually discussed for seven days; then they are either deleted by an administrator or kept, based on community consensus as evident from the discussion, consistent with policy, and with careful judgment of the rough consensus if required.
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Current discussions
- Pages currently being considered for deletion are indexed by the day on which they were first listed. Please place new listings at the top of the section for the current day. If no section for the current day is present, please start a new section.
November 24, 2025
Not real and created by a problematic IP.. err temp account. See also here. Even the one source tacked on at the bottom of the page says "The creative team will neither confirm nor deny that something “Wicked” this way comes" Mike Allen 00:58, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
- Actually, I meant to do this as a speedy delete. :\ Mike Allen 00:59, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep in the absence of information that this is actually a hoax. Decline if submitted to AFC in its current form. Leave Useless Drafts Alone. In six months, it may go away or may be improved. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:11, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Unnecessary to delete drafts for this reason, per Robert McClenon. In view of the frrequent nomination of drafts at MfD, often well-intentioned but ultimately unnecessary/inappropriate given Draft deletion policy, I've WP:BOLDly tweaked the preamble to the MFD page to try to guide would-be nominators to ask themselves the right questions. We'll see if people change/improve what I wrote. Martinp (talk) 13:36, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
November 23, 2025
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Magic (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
Deletion sorting venues are supposed to divide discussions into niches so people most knowledgeable or interested in them can participate. This area, 'magic', is so niche I don't find any use of it. How many magicians are there really to justify its inclusion? It only gets a few entries per year. Magic (illusion) is defined as a performing art; thus, related articles that do fit this odd category can instead go into the art deletion sorting. jolielover♥talk 05:42, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
- Probably, but you should post a note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Deletion sorting, and add yourself to the WikiProject membership. SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:27, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - This should be discussed at the deletion sorting talk page, WikiProject Deletion sorting. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:05, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
This WikiProject has no listed participants, no subpages and no activity since it was created 3 August 2022. Also, a WikiProject with the same name was deleted in 2011. Stefen 𝕋ower's got the power!!1! Gab • Gruntwerk 01:38, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - The activity of a WikiProject takes place on its talk page, but the talk page of this project is empty, because there never was an activity. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:12, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: No participants and the talkpage was never even created. It does not seem like this went thru the proper wikiproject creation process. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 02:51, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
November 20, 2025
Wikipedia isn't the place to be creating things like this. It isn't a webhost or your own personal website, so this should be deleted. You may note that it has been tagged with the humor tag, but this happened quite a long time ago, before humor was clearly defined on Wikipedia. If we go to Wikipedia:Humor#Humor outside of articles, it has a handful of examples on what is acceptable. This page doesn't meet any of them, it doesn't illustrate any point, it doesn't document any funny articles, etc. Most importantly, it is not very related to Wikipedia like the end article is, the beginning of wikipedia page is, or like how the other end of wikipedia article is. It was previously kept because of these reasons, but I think I have rebuked them. User:Easternsaharareview this 18:23, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Pages like this, light hearted community interactions, were a feature of the early days of Wikipedia, and they were a good thing. This page, 2007, is more like the peak growth period than early, but these things used to be normal. The early days also featured a lot of bad stuff, and rules and practices have tightened since then, but they have not tightened around harmless good-willed fun. The page is also historical, and the nomination seeks to erase history, and has no apparent good purpose. SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:56, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
- Let's look at the page stats. The page has found a resurgence in edits, with the number of edits in 2024 to present being more than previous years, and it had mostly died out from 2023-2012. Unregistered editors, who are by large part not part of the "wikipedia community", make up a fifth of the edits and the top 10 editors make up half the edits. This means that this page still distracts from constructive editing, that it wasn't created by a "wikipedia community" and that it wasn't created collaboratively. Thus, I do not see what value this page would provide by being tagged as historical, as other pages are. This contains no policy proposal or anything useful at all. This may be good-willed fun but Wikipedia has user page guidelines which this is violating. WP:NOTSOCIALNETWORK, WP:NOTWEBHOST, and most importantly this isn't something that is related to Wikipedia. I get keeping humor pages like wikispecies because those allow editors to read about common user behaviors in a humorous way. I also understand keeping guestbooks to build community, although I do not support those. But I don't think that this is similar to those things and does not help with editor retention significantly. User:Easternsaharareview this 04:12, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. You should stop looking in others’ userspace for things you don’t approve. SmokeyJoe (talk) 10:51, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
- You should stop disregarding user page guidelines when they're against old pages or experienced users. User:Easternsaharareview this 18:52, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. You should stop looking in others’ userspace for things you don’t approve. SmokeyJoe (talk) 10:51, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
- Let's look at the page stats. The page has found a resurgence in edits, with the number of edits in 2024 to present being more than previous years, and it had mostly died out from 2023-2012. Unregistered editors, who are by large part not part of the "wikipedia community", make up a fifth of the edits and the top 10 editors make up half the edits. This means that this page still distracts from constructive editing, that it wasn't created by a "wikipedia community" and that it wasn't created collaboratively. Thus, I do not see what value this page would provide by being tagged as historical, as other pages are. This contains no policy proposal or anything useful at all. This may be good-willed fun but Wikipedia has user page guidelines which this is violating. WP:NOTSOCIALNETWORK, WP:NOTWEBHOST, and most importantly this isn't something that is related to Wikipedia. I get keeping humor pages like wikispecies because those allow editors to read about common user behaviors in a humorous way. I also understand keeping guestbooks to build community, although I do not support those. But I don't think that this is similar to those things and does not help with editor retention significantly. User:Easternsaharareview this 04:12, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: It's harmless humor, and part of the Department of Fun! The Master of Hedgehogs (talk) (contributions) (Sign my guestbook!) 13:58, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
- keep and trout the nominator for being a self-appointed fun police. ltbdl (talk) 14:02, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
It's a long story, but I gave a temp user a userpage as an experiment as the temp user proposed in the Village Pump that temp users have userpages, and I wondered if those could be created already. Such a userpage will remain permanently, however, and this user has used it for political promotion. I think we should delete it until consensus is reached in the Village Pump ✨ΩmegaMantis✨blather 02:23, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete the userpage seems to traffic in various conspiracies. The user is self-evidently WP:NOTHERE, or their user page clearly portrays as such. User:Bluethricecreamman (Talk·Contribs) 04:40, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
Keep. It is not political promotion, it is introduction of the user’s political bias. This is allowed, even encouraged, on userpages. I think “the userpage seems to traffic in various conspiracies” is nonsense.- It is a reasonable main Userpage. The temporary user should be urged to WP:Register and move it to their proper main Userpage. The temporary Userpage might be well deleted when the temporary account expires.
- - SmokeyJoe (talk) 09:21, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- The kirk conspiracy theory gives it away. And though i myself also display my political affiliation on my user page, the insinuation that kirk was killed by israel and trump is entirely inappropriate. User:Bluethricecreamman (Talk·Contribs) 16:38, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- at the very least i think im fine with the far right declaration. The association between trump and epstein might be skirting the line of blp, but as the user isnt stating it in wikivoice its probably fine?
- but the israel trump kirk stuff should probably be deleted. I think there is some precedent in MfD for that.
- not sure about the village pump discussion, temp account user pages are strange to me, and not sure temp accounts are implemented to rotate like IPs right? User:Bluethricecreamman (Talk·Contribs) 16:52, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- Hmmm. You have a point.
- I am hesitant to support MfD in getting into judgement, and refinement, of what users may write along the lines of conspiracy theories. We would delete a userbox that asserted these things. The Trump BLP angle is borderline, but there. Blaming Israel for Kirk is looney.
- Userpages are not read as WikiVoice. Users are allowed to have their POV, and to be wrong, and it is better for bias or lunacy to be declared.
- I’m not sure. SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:04, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
- The kirk conspiracy theory gives it away. And though i myself also display my political affiliation on my user page, the insinuation that kirk was killed by israel and trump is entirely inappropriate. User:Bluethricecreamman (Talk·Contribs) 16:38, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
November 18, 2025
In mainspace, it's got nine substantive deletions I can find among Joseph Primiani, Joey Primiani, and Joseph C. Primiani (and a handful more A1's and redirects), with afds at the first two titles and an overly-optimistic DRV for the second. More to the point, between this title and Draft:Joey Primiani (2), it's been submitted at least eight times, G13'd eleven times, and credulously restored seven times without appreciable improvement. We've been hosting this person's resume - sometimes glorified, as at present, sometimes quite literally - since he was an 18-year-old college student in 2006. Enough. —Cryptic 05:09, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete from draft space. Drafts are not deleted for lack of notability, and are seldom deleted except for tendentious resubmission. This is a case of tendentious existence and undeletion of a draft. Deletion of the draft will prevent refunding at Requests for Undeletion. Also, because of the use of different forms of his first name, put his surname, Primiani, on the Title Blacklist. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:14, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - normally, drafts are left for G13 to deal with, but in this case, G13 is not working so deletion via MFD is appropriate. -- Whpq (talk) 18:08, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 04:31, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
November 17, 2025
Another fantasy version of List of presidents of the United States but with the 46th and 47th president changed, with the page mixed with sections from Mass shootings in the United States. This page seems to be the creator's exclusive editing interest, so they are clearly WP:NOTHERE. Creator has been inactive for almost a year now, however, the page continues to be edited by several users and IPs I suspect are sockpuppets of the creator. TruenoCity (talk) 16:36, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - Wikipedia is not a web host for fantasy elections. -- Whpq (talk) 20:16, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - This also uses the names and images of living persons to provide contrary-to-fact information, so that this is a biographies of living persons violation. There are other issues, but the BLP violation is enough. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:43, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:08, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:29, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: delete. ✗plicit 14:43, 24 November 2025 (UTC) WP:NOTWEBHOST, content already repeated in user's sandbox Drm310 🍁 (talk) 12:58, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
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November 16, 2025
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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Protection would be an issue for WP:RFPP. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:36, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL, also been rejected more times than I can care to count. Tankishguy 15:48, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: delete. ✗plicit 23:47, 23 November 2025 (UTC) WP:NOTWEBHOST, content repeated at Draft:Space Food for Interstellar Missions and the Gummy‐Dried Ration Concept Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:31, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
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November 12, 2025
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The result of the discussion was: delete. ✗plicit 23:47, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
This user page is not in English (it's written in French), is promotional, and appears to be AI-generated content. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 06:14, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
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