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Use of ChatGPT/LLM in this WikiProject

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Hello Wikipedians and editors,

I need your help! I am conducting research for my master's degree in environmental communication and I'm interested in the learning more about the use of LLMs during the editing/writing process of Wikipedia articles. In true Wikipedia fashion, I am entering this inquiry from a neutral standpoint - I neither support nor oppose the use of LLMs on Wikipedia articles. I am writing here in hopes of reading your anecdotes on how LLMs have been used or even encountered on Wikipedia articles within the WikiProject Environment.

You may see this topic a few times in your notifications, but please don't dismiss it as spam! I am posting the same topic here on the WikiProject Environment talk page, as well as the Earth, Climate Change and Tesla Model S talk pages - because they are the only three Wikipedia articles that are both of FA quality and of Top importance according to the WikiProject Environment Article Assessment table. I am open to hearing experiences with using or encountering LLMs in the editing process of other Wikipedia articles as well, but I do want to remain within the limits of articles under the WikiProject Environment umbrella.

It is understandable if you want to remain anonymous to other Wikipedians in this discussion. If so please feel free to reach out to me via the "Email this user" feature on my User page! Otherwise, I encourage a conversation to take place on this Talk page so that it may inspire others to contribute.

Finally, I am only in the design/digging around phase of this research. If anything that is said will be used in my actual research, all contributors will remain anonymous (unless requested otherwise). Consent forms can be made available at any time for anyone involved in further research that may be published to the public.

Some questions to inspire your storytelling:

- How have you encountered the use of LLMs on editing/writing Wikipedia articles within WikiProject environment?

- What impact has it had on article quality?

- Where do you stand on the use of LLMs in editing/writing Wikipedia articles dealing with environmental topics?

- What about the use of LLMs in editing/writing on other topics in Wikipedia articles?

- Do you have a community on Wikipedia that you communicate with about the use of LLMs in editing/writing Wikipedia articles? If so, please mention which one(s)!

All the best,

Wikipistemologist (talk) 14:40, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I use LLMs quite frequently in my editing. 95% of the time, I'm using it to simplify text, to help me find a word (either translated from Dutch, or by describing the word I'm trying to think of), or otherwise improving prose quality. On occasion, I've used it to suggest how an article could be structured (the table of content), but in general those suggestions are not great. We have a large problem with articles that are too difficult to understand, and I believe getting help on how to simplify the language we use makes it much easier for us to write in plain and clear English.
I've encountered people use LLMs for finding sources (at least that's my suspicion), where LLMs give hard-to-detect garbage. I consider this one of my main points of concern on Wikipedia, how it's difficult to stop this type of LLM-generated misattribution. The whole idea of Wikipedia is that we're not experts and that the sources speak for themselves. If that trust is broken, there is little role remaining for WIkipedia. I wish that legislators made correct attribution obligatory for these models, so that their users know how trustworthy their output is. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 16:24, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Femke! How great to get your input on this. Are you a part of/a watcher to any forums regarding any of these points? Have you seen discussions on Wikipedia about these concerns you have brought up in regards to any specific WikiProject Environment-related articles?
Additionally, have you ever tried using any tools to detect LLM generated text in any of the articles you're actively editing/watching? Wikipistemologist (talk) 16:30, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In terms of fora where this is discussed: we sometimes talk about it in the Wikipedia WP:DISCORD server informally. On-wiki, you regularly see AI misuse reported at WP:ANI. In terms of an example, this edit to natural gas seems like AI slop to me. Sources that don't exist. The give-away was that a lot of text was added in one go. Normal edits, especially from newer editors, is usually more gradual.
I believe I used an LLM to make suggestions on how to improve the introduction to the induction cooker article.
I've never used LLM detectors. The two give-aways are made-up sources and waffle. Of course, some people waffle even without LLMs, so breaching the topic can be sensitive. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 17:41, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Help illustrate climate change information on Wikipedia and win a signed copy of The Climate Book by Greta Thunberg

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Dear all

I’m very happy to let you know we are running a competition at Wikiproject Climate Change to encourage people to help improve visual information about Climate change. The competition is open until the 17th of May for all language versions of Wikipedia. The top three point scorers will each win a signed copy of The Climate Book by Greta Thunberg.

Please let me know if you have any questions

Thanks :)

John Cummings (talk) 16:29, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of environmentalists?

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Please participate in the discussion at environmentalism about spinning off the section about people to a new list article called list of environmentalists (even though I don't think such a list of people will be particularly useful; but better than bloating up the article environmentalism). See talk page of environmentalism. Also see talk page of environmental movement - needs further brains as well. EMsmile (talk) 07:54, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi EMsmile, just a kind reminder that Wikiproject notifications should be neutral, to prevent the impression of canvassing. Thanks! —Femke 🐦 (talk) 09:31, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Noted, thanks! EMsmile (talk) 10:17, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cancer Alley

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I added some information regarding the racial and ethnic makeup of the parishes in Cancer Alley in Louisiana. It seems to be relevant to me as the article includes information about allegations of environmental racism. If anyone would want to chime in either for or against inclusion it would be appreciated. The collapsed table I would like to add is on the talk page. Cheers (see Talk:Cancer Alley#Adding the racial/ethnic profile of the counties in Cancer Alley...Patapsco913 (talk) 18:51, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion: New article on atmospheric methane uptake by trees

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I'm Alexander Shenkin, co-author of a 2024 Nature paper showing trees remove methane from the atmosphere. Given the climate significance, this discovery might merit a Wikipedia article.

Key points:

  • Published in Nature (July 2024): https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-024-07592-w
  • Shows forests are 10% more beneficial for climate than previously thought
  • Covered by multiple news outlets
  • Has commercial applications in development

Related: SelvaFlux (https://selvaflux.com), a company I founded to commercialize this discovery through methane removal credits, might also be notable enough for an article if it gains more coverage.

I have a conflict of interest so won't create these myself, but happy to provide sources and answer questions on this talk page if anyone's interested in writing about either topic. Ashenkin (talk) 05:36, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Add section to Golf on environmental impact.

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The article for golf looks like it was essentially written by the golf industry. There are many articles on the environmental impact of the sport, and I linked several in talk:Golf, but we haven't had much forward movement. Posting the sources here and bringing attention to this in case anyone is interested in getting a section started. It's on my to do list, but may take a while.

  • Analyzing golf course pesticide risk across the US and Europe—The importance of regulatory environment
  • A Global Perspective on the Environmental Impact of Golf
  • What does sport really cost? A micro-economic study of the consumer cost of golf and soccer
  • An exploration of golf and voluntary environmental programmes
  • Golf, the environment, and development
  • Market Preemption and Entry Deterrence: Evidence from the Golf Course Industry
  • What does sport really cost? A micro-economic study of the consumer cost of golf and soccer
  • Who is the city for? Sports facilities and the case of Vancouver’s public golf courses
  • Golf for all? The problems of municipal provision in the book Science and Golf II
  • Do Urban Golf Courses Provide Barriers to Equitable Greenspace Access in the United States?
  • Municipal Enterprises: Exploring Budgetary and Political Implications
  • Expansion of Golf Courses in the United States*
  • Effects of nutrient subsidies from groundwater to nearshore marine ecosystems off the island of Hawaii

GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 01:07, 10 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the recommendations! I think what is likely a more tactful approach would be to incrementally improve sections: adding environmental issues to the golf course section, and talk about gender and racial discrimination in other places (i.e. instead of a section title "women" it could be something more like "Demographics of golf", Sadads (talk) 13:43, 10 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Monsanto + Sign-post article

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FYI. This recent Sign-post article
  • Is Wikipedia a merchant of (non-)doubt for glyphosate?

has produced discussion here:

  • Talk:Monsanto#Williams_2000_ghostwriting_controversy
  • Talk:Polyethoxylated_tallow_amine#Williams_et_al_2000_paper
  • Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard#USRTK
  • Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard#More_organic_industry_sourcing

--David Tornheim (talk) 17:44, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks, I have added the Glyphosate article to our Project page. Jusdafax (talk) 05:28, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Glyphosate/Roundup is banned in numerous countries and localities, and a well-sourced list article of such notable nations and locations should be created. Jusdafax (talk) 20:12, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Makes sense. Might want to mention that in the two articles. --David Tornheim (talk) 22:54, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I looked at the Monsanto Talk page. I am astonished by this link to a study of glyphosate and the history of how Monsanto ghostwrote a key paper cited by Wikipedia as a reliable source. The link: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1462901125001765?via%3Dihub Jusdafax (talk) 09:34, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can people please improve the readability of Source–sink dynamics? Thanks.

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I think that I'm normally pretty comfortable with technical writing, but IMHO the readability of Source–sink dynamics can be improved. - ~2025-36261-79 (talk) 04:47, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

New draft related to dark-sky preservation and environmental communication: Astronomitaly

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Hello, I would like to bring attention to a new draft that may be relevant to WikiProject Environment:

Draft:Astronomitaly https://teknopedia.ac.id/wiki/Draft:Astronomitaly

The draft focuses on dark-sky preservation, light pollution awareness and environmental communication through astronomy-related outreach. The article includes multiple peer-reviewed academic sources.

Any comments or feedback would be welcome. FabriMarra68 (talk) 16:07, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Request for input: possible split discussion at Talk:REDD and REDD+

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I've revived a discussion at Talk:REDD and REDD+#Split article into REDD+ and UN-REDD Programme about whether to re-split the UN-REDD Programme material out from REDD and REDD+ into a separate article (and leave a summary + {{main}} link in the parent article).

Input from interested editors is welcome. Please comment on the article talk page section linked above so the discussion stays in one place. Yourecoveredinbees (talk) 23:37, 30 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Organizing articles at the vital article lists

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On the Vital articles project, there are a number of pages listing 50,000 articles to prioritize for level 5. I've noticed that of the environmental issues, some are listed under "Social studies" while others are listed under "Earth science". If you have any better ideas on how to organize, or proposals of things to add, remove, or swap from these lists, you're welcome to comment here: Wikipedia talk:Vital_articles/Level/5/Society#Environmental stuff. Melozone crissalis (talk) 21:25, 16 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:RDA (Avatar)#Requested move 23 January 2026

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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:RDA (Avatar)#Requested move 23 January 2026 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPathtalk 09:35, 2 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

2026 Potomac River sewage spill

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I just created 2026 Potomac River sewage spill. It may be of interest to members of this project. Thriley (talk) 22:09, 17 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Nuclear weapons and Israel#Requested move 7 February 2026

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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Nuclear weapons and Israel#Requested move 7 February 2026 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPathtalk 07:13, 23 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Join Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026 – Create New Articles & Win Prizes

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Hello WikiProject Environment Members,

You are warmly invited to participate in Wikipedia:Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026 on the English Wikipedia.

This campaign focuses on improving content related to Ramadan, its history, traditions, culture, heritage, notable events, and global observances.

You can participate by creating new articles related to Ramadan and its associated topics. Your contributions will help bridge content gaps and improve coverage of Islamic culture and history on English Wikipedia.

There are also International Prizes for eligible participants.

Please visit the project page for full details, timeline, and guidelines: Wikipedia:Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026

We look forward to your participation. Warm Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 08:56, 26 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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