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Seeing that his Armenian origin is discussed at length in the body of the article, wouldn't it be appropriate to mention it in the lead as well? - Kevo³²⁷ (talk) 07:52, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, that would be tantamount to adding mention of the foreign origin mothers of Byzantine emperors and Ottoman sultans to their respective ledes. Varsken is overwhelmingly referred to as an Iranian, Persian and/or Sasanian in the reliable sources. - LouisAragon (talk) 13:56, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

LouisAragon after checking again I noticed only his mother was explicitly described as Armenian while his father doesn't have any ethnicity mentioned, with only him not being able to participate in the "Armenian Christian rebellion" because of his imprisonment, this part implies that he is Armenian, which is what gave me a confused impression of Armenian lineage from both sides. - Kevo³²⁷ (talk) 15:28, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

By Varsken’s time, the family had lived in the culturally and linguistically complex region on the Armeno-Georgian frontier for more than a century. They were as much Iranian as Armenian or Iberian. I think stating that Varsken was "prince from the Mihranid family of Iranian origin" would solve the problem.--Kober^Talk 15:13, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 21:28, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Three paras in lead is too much for this modest article, I would reduce to two.

I get that, but I'm not sure how to do that without omitting any important information. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:53, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

~~"successor of Arshusha II." link. I note it's linked in the succession box, so no reason not to link it here.~~
"~~bidaxshes.[4][1][5] Albeit" ref order.~~
"~~Sasanian Empire.[15][13] " ref order.~~
"Bolnisi Sioni in Iberia" our article says it's in the "Bolnisi village of Bolnisi District, Georgia", should we put the modern name here?

No imho, it was known as Iberia at that time. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:49, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"~~suzerainty" link?~~
~~"husband.[22][23][13]" ref order.~~
~~Where is the Genealogy section referenced?~~
~~Refs 9 and 10, pp. and en-dash.~~
~~ISBNs consistently formatted.~~

That's all I have. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 11:51, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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